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Toukou 02


米版アルトネリコ2発売おめでとうございます。
これで2の皆さんもアメリカ進出ですね。
そこでプロモも出たことですし北米版について皆さんの感想をお聞かせください。
(八丈島のにょ?)

Congratulations for the release of Ar tonelico 2's NA version.
With this, everyone in 2 can launch their careers in America.
They even released a promotional video over there, so everyone, please tell us your impressions on it.
(Nyo? From Hachiyo Island)

Cloche1

あら、北米版のプロモーションもう出てたのね。
まだ見てなかったから今見てみるわね。
…………なるほど、私は向こうだとThe Holy Maidenってことになるのね。

Oh, so the American promotional video was released?
I have yet to see it, so I shall watch right now
...Hmm, I see. So it has been decided that I'm "The Holy Maiden" over there.

Luca(adult)1

わぁ、これが英語版の私達なんだ。
英語だから何を言ってるのかはさっぱりだけど、向こうの声優さんの声も凄く素敵ですね。
特に私の声優さんなんか、NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOって叫んでて凄い!!

Whoa, so these are our English versions.
I don't understand at all what they're saying since it's in English, but the voice actors over there are really wonderful.
Especially the way my voice actress shouts "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"!!

Cynthia2

そういえば北米版だと私とクーくんが結ばれる追加エンディングがあるんだよね?

By the way, they added an ending where Coo and me get married in the NA version!

Croix(knight)6

あるのが当然のような顔してウソを言うんじゃない!!
北米版は日本版を翻訳しただけで追加エンディングとかは一切ないから、シンシアの言葉を信じたらダメだからな。

With just looking at your face, anyone would know you're lying!!
The NA version is just a translation of the JP version and no additional endings were added to it, so no one should believe what Cynthia said.

Adult Misha's Problem Consultation Room[]

Toukou 03

Adult Misha4

こんにちは、ミシャよ。
今回はタルガーナがお休みと言うこともあって、ちょっと寂しいわね。
ある意味ムードメーカだったから地味目の相談室になっちゃうけど、真剣度合はいつも通りだから安心してね。

Hello everyone, Misha here.
Targana said he would be taking some time off this issue, so it feels a little more lonely than usual.
This place might seem to be turning from a simple consultation room into some sort of mood-maker, but we'll continue being as honest as we always have been, so you don't have anything to worry about it.

人ミシャなら恋愛経験にも答えてくれると信じて・・・!
最近好きな人が出来たのですが、その相手はノリが好い反面、凄くクールな方なんです。勇気を持って話をかけてみるものの、相手と話すという事だけで緊張してしまい、いつもすぐ会話が終わってしまいます。ガンガン押しても嫌われそうだし、ヨワヨワしてても嫌われそうでどうしたらいいかわかりません。こんな相手の場合、ミシャさんならどうすればいいと思いますか?
(ドール)

I'll believe if it's adult Misha replying even about love experiences...!
Lately I've come to like someone but the person is enthusiastic and receptive, and on the other hand he has a very cool side to him. I gathered up my courage and tried to think of a good topic of conversation, but when I talk to this person, I get very nervous and our conversations always end very fast. If I press on it I feel I'd get him to hate me, if I'm too soft I also feel that I'd get him to hate me, so I can't seem to come up with a good topic. Do you have any good ideas for someone like him?
(Doll)

Adult Misha4

ふふっ、本当にそのお相手が好きなのね。二人で話すと緊張しちゃうなら、最初は誰かお友達を連れてきたりして、3人とかで話してみるというのは手かもしれないわね。話が続かないのは、まだ話が続くほど濃い話題が見つかっていないという事もあると思うけど、沢山の人で話していると、自分が会話に参加しなくても、思わぬ話を聞けたりするし、ノリを観察することも出来るもの。もしくは、とにかく何か「話しかける話題」を作ってみるとかね。簡単なことでイイと思うわ。勉強でわからないところをそれとなく相談してみるとか、そういったところから盛り上がる事も良くあるわ。「何か話さなきゃ!」から話を作ろうとするから詰まっちゃうわけで、「話すのが普通の状況」さえ作ってしまえば、色々と発見も進展も出来るんじゃないかしら。がんばってね!

Hehe, you really like this person, don't you? If you become nervous when talking between just the two of you, bring a friend along, as it could be easier for you to keep conversation when there are three people involved. A conversation topic that was dropped may mean that you just haven't found a deep one, but when there are a lot of people talking near you, even if you don't join the conversation, you may hear some unexpected topics, which could you help pick up the mood. Otherwise, you should try for now to make conversations. In this case, simpler is better. If there's any subject you can't understand at school, you can try asking him, and it's very likely that something exciting will come from something like that. Making a topic out of a "desperate need for one" can be troublesome, but if you create a topic out of your "typical day-to-day situations", you may be able to discover and come up with all sorts of possible things. Do your best!

Lady Shurelia and Jakuri's Technical Service Center[]

Toukou 08
Cloche1

どんな問題こんな問題!

No matter what kind of problem you might have!

Luca(adult)1

何でもお任せ、バビッと解決!

Leave it to us, we'll solve it all like "ba-bing"!

Cloche5a テクニカルサービスセンター!!

Technical Service Center!!

Luca(adult)1 テクニカルサービスセンター!!

Technical Service Center!!

Luca(adult)1

こうやってタイトルコールを二人でやるのって久し振りだねー!

It's been so long since we last made a title call like this one, huh!

Cloche1

そうね、WEBラジオ以来かしら。あの時はなかなか合わなくて苦労したけど、今回はバッチリね。

Indeed, from back when we did the Web Radio. We didn't come together back then and that caused us several hardships, but this time we could do it perfectly.

Luca(adult)6

そりゃもう…さすがに1週間練習すれば、本番はイヤでも一発OKになると思うよ。

But well... I think that if we practiced for one week, the performance would come out okay anyway.

Cloche2a そ、それを言ったらだめじゃない!

Y-you should refrain from saying such things!


と思ったのですが、塔同士の技術交流は過去にあったのですか?あったとしてどんな事をしたのですか?

(キンタ)

I just had this thought: what kind of technological exchanges did the Towers have in the past? Did they have some kind of interaction?
(Kinta)

Krusche2

史実を見ると、チラホラあったみたいだね。何でもソルシエール第二紀…すなわち300年ほど前には、移民船がメタファルスへ辿り着いたという話を聞いているし。何でも、ソルシエールの技術をメタファルスに提供して、メタファルスのダイブマシンなんかはソルシエールの技術で作られているって聞いてるよ。

From looking over the historical facts, it looks there were a few interactions. The stories I've heard on it were about when a refugee ship arrived at Metafalss during the Second Era of Sol Ciel... about 300 years ago. And thanks to that, Sol Ciel offered their technologies to Metafalss, and Metafalss developed their Dive Machines based from these technologies.

Cloche9

ま、それだけだったら全然大歓迎だったんだけど。実際はその後随分と略奪されたみたいね。一時期首都パスタリアはソルシエールの人達に占領された、って話だし。技術交流には必ず強者と弱者が生まれる。いい事だけではないのは歴史の常ね。

Well, it was very warm welcome if that was the case. However, it seems it ended becoming a case of a nation pillaging another a few years later. There are stories about a time in which our capital, Pastalia was captured by the Sol Cielans. Technological exchanges will always end up in a distinction between weak ones and strong ones, and while it isn't really a pleasant fact, it's unfortunately a constant in history.


ういえば、メタファリカに天候はあるのですか?

(イクス)

By the way, does Metafalica have weather?
(Ix)


Infel0

もちろんあるわよ。それも、ウェザコン…すなわち「ひねもすの羽根(ソルシエールでは「彩音回廊」)」で操作するような人工的なものではなく、ある程度自然界のサイクルとして成立したものが存在するわ。もちろん、基本的な温度湿度や気圧なども大地の心臓で制御出来るとは思うけど、今はひねもすの羽根が管轄しているから何とも言えないわね。けど、雨や風などは、正真正銘メタファリカの自然の法則がそのまま生きている。もちろんこれらもひねもすの羽根で出来ないことはないけど、自然サイクルの中で発生させることが可能、という意味で、天候はあるという答えを出しておくわ。

Of course it has. And additionally, it isn't an artificially-made climate manipulated by a weather controller... or by the "Wings of Hynemos (the "Musical Corridor" in Sol Ciel)", and is instead something that was established by the natural world to a certain degree. Yes: basically, I think the Heart of the Land is capable of controlling the temperature, humidity and atmospheric pressure, but I won't say it does since it is inside the range of the Wings of Hynemos. However, the rain and wind are produced all because of the authentic natural laws existing in Metafalica. Of course they aren't anything the Wings of Hynemos can't produce, but since it's possible for the continent to produce them as part of its natural cycles, we could conclude it does indeed have a weather.

Frelia0

そっかー。でもそれだと、完全にコンダクターヴィジョンを落としてしまうわけにはいかないね。
せめてひねもすの羽根があるジャイロ部分は残しておかないと、みんな大変なことになっちゃう。

Got it. But that means we can't let the Conductor Vision drop completely, right?
If we don't leave at least the part of the 'Scope where the Wings of Hynemos are located, everyone's gonna be in trouble.

Infel7

まあ…理論上はメタファリカだけで成立する筈なんだけど。
まだ実践経験が無いから、机上の空論でしか説明できないのよね。

Well... theoretically Metafalica should be able to produce its own atmosphere.
But since we have no actual experience with this happening, it is no more than academic gossip.


回のテクニカで、精神体でもとりあえずはオリカの肉体に移れるとのことでしたが、これを応用すれば、肉体が朽ちる前に精神体を他の肉体に移す、ということを繰り返して擬似不老不死ができるのではないでしょうか?

それとも、やはりベータ純血種の寿命通り150年で精神も滅びてしまうのでしょうか?
(咲也)

It was in a previous Technical Service Center that Mir tried to move her mind into Aurica's body, but if someone did this same thing, would it be possible to move their mind to another body before their original one died, and become pseudo-immortal by doing that over and over?
Or would a Pureblooded Beta-Tpe still die from having her mind collapse once her life span of 150 years runs out?
(Sakuya)

Infel0

ぶっちゃけそうやって生きているのが私なんだけど。
肉体と精神体は、レーヴァテイルの場合は同時に消える訳じゃないのよ。
肉体の死は中核三角環の寿命であって、精神世界(SH)サーバー内の精神の死とは違う。ラジコンで言えば、ラジコンカーのモーターが壊れるのが寿命であって、でもコントローラーの方はまだ生きてるでしょ、そっちが精神。
精神世界の整理は意外といい加減に作られていて、たまに不安定になったときはガベージコレクション(不要なデータを削除)をするけど、頻度は高くないわ。だから、死んだ後数年は精神体が残っているのが普通よ。ガベージコレクションでは、肉体とリンクしていない精神体のメモリが全部初期化されてしまうわね。私の場合、嘘の肉体リンクデータを登録してあって、それを何度か免れているけど。

Frankly speaking, I lived on by doing that same thing.
The bodies and minds of the Reyvateils don't disappear at the same time.
The death of the body from the life span of the Triangular Nuclear Loop reaching its end, and the death of the mind within the Soulspace (SH) Server are different things. Let me explain it with this analogy: if the motor for a remote control car was destroyed, that would be due to its life span ending, but its controller would still be alive. That would be its mind.
The processing of the Soulspaces was made in a surprisingly crude manner, so while there are some occasional points in which they become unstable and get caught up by the Garbage Collection process (eliminated as unnecessary data), that happens extremely infrequently. So it's normal for Reyvateils to be able to continue existing as spiritual beings for several years after dying. And the purpose of the Garbage Collection is just completely formatting the memory sections corresponding to the Soulspaces that aren't linked to a body. In my case, I registered linkage data to a fake body into the server, which is what allowed me to escape that process.


シャのご先祖様である初代リューンはミュールの次に力のあるβ純血種だったそうですが、シュレリア 様と比べるとどちらの方が強かったのですか?
(ハーモニ)

Misha's earliest Lune ancestor seems to be the strongest Pureblooded β-type after Mir, but compared to Lady Shurelia, who's stronger?
(Harmony)

Shurelia0

割と普通でしたよ。そもそもオリジンとベータを比較するのは無理がありますし。
そうですね、強いて言えば…
彼女と一緒に歩いているときに迷子になったことは一度も無かった、という事くらいでしょうか。彼女のナビ能力には、さすがの私も完敗でしたね。

She was relatively normal. Origins and Betas can't really be compared in the first place, anyway.
And right, about who is stronger...
Well, at least I could say that I never got lost whenever I went out walking with her. When it comes to sense of orientation, I was utterly defeated by her.

Adult Misha3

それは強いわ!私のご先祖様、そんなに最強だったなんて!

She was extremely strong! My ancestor was said to be the strongest!

Mir3

負けたわ…。

She defeated me...


ういえばI.P.D.は必ず先天的になりえる因子のようなものがないとならないのですか?もし特にそういうものがないなら、ならないように予防?のようなことは可能ですか?もし後天的にI.P.D.になるとすると、通常のレーヴァテイルには戻れないと色々と困るんじゃないかと思ったのですが。

(ハクレイ)

By the way, becoming an IPD is like a disease gotten from a hereditary condition, right? Does that means there's no particular way to prevent it? And if a normal Reyvateil becomes an IPD due to that condition, wouldn't she be troubled about not being able to go back to being normal?
(Hakurei)

I.P.D.についての質問です。

ゲーム内でI.P.D.になると心の護が消えると言っていたので気になったのですが、通常のレーヴァテイルが発症している場合でも後からI.P.D.レーヴァテイルが発症するのでしょうか?この場合、I.P.D.レーヴァテイル質を持っていないレーヴァテイルでも発症するのでしょうか?話を作る上で疑問に感じたので御解答のほど御願いします。
(アーク)

I've got a question about the IPDs.
I remember reading in the game that Mind Guardians disappear when a Reyvateil becomes an IPD, but does that mean they awakened as normal Reyvateils and then they awakened as IPDs? So in that case, can Reyvateils that don't have IPD Reyvateil qualities awaken as IPDs? I felt like asking about it after reading that, so I'll be awaiting for your answer.

Luca(adult)0

I.P.D.になる子は、生まれたときからI.P.D.発症するかしないかしか選択肢はないんだよ。保有している遺伝子がI.P.D.レーヴァテイル質なのか、それとも普通の第三世代レーヴァテイル質なのかというのは、もう生まれたときに決まってる。それは…例えば、田中さんの子孫は田中爺さんの遺伝子は受け継いでいるけど、全然血縁の関係がないジョンソンさんの遺伝子は受け継いでいないでしょ?逆もまた然りでしょ?I.P.D.の遺伝子を受け継げるのは、先祖にI.P.D.レーヴァテイルがいた場合に起こるものだし、第三世代もまた同じなの。もちろん、第三世代とI.P.D.の混血もたまにいるけど、その場合はより血が強い方が発症するみたいね。要するに、両方とも「レーヴァテイル」とは言ってるけど、全然別のものだと思ってくれれば間違いないかな。

The girls that'll become IPDs can only awaken as IPDs when they're born: it's not like they get to choose. The decision is already made before their birth depending on if they are carrying in their genes the IPD Reyvateil qualities or the normal Third Generation Reyvateil qualities. As an example... Tanaka's descendants will inherit the genes from his grandfather, but they won't inherit the genes of someone that isn't related to them by blood like Johnson, right? The IPD genes are only passed down from the Reyvateils that awakened as IPDs, and the same goes for the Third Generations. Of course, there might be Reyvateils who have mixed genes from both Third Generations and IPDs, and it looks like in these cases, they'll awaken as the type of Reyvateil they carry the strongest in their blood. In short, while they both are called "Reyvateils", it wouldn't be wrong to consider them as completely different things.



Cloche1

でも、こうやってタイトルコールとエンディングもシュレリア様以外の人が出来るようになるなんて、随分と開けたテクニカルサービスセンターになったものね。

But to think that someone aside of Lady Shurelia would be allowed to say the title call and ending like this... Looks like the Technical Service Center has gotten become a much more open place now.

Luca(adult)1

ねね!大鐘堂も、これくらい開けた文化にしようよ。
例えば、降誕祭やメタファリカフェスタの時に前に出る御子様も、毎回みんなから公募するとか!!

Hey hey, maybe we hafta make a more open culture in the Grand Bell Hall, like this one.
For example, make both Maidens appear in public for Christmas and the Metafalica Festa! That way, we'd get a lot of appeal from the public!!

Cloche2a

貴方は自分が楽をしたいだけじゃない!!

You just want to have fun!! Isn't that right!?

Luca(adult)5

えへへ、ばれたか。

Eheheh, was it that obvious?


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(Tsuchiya)

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